Speaker 1
Good Saturday morning to everybody. Welcome to your next chapter, a production of Avery Heights Senior Living Community. Avery Heights is a 43 acre senior living community with a full continuum of care, including independent and assisted living, memory care, and a whole lot more.

Now, this show will provide helpful tips and resources that will empower and encourage you each week presenting important topics and resources guiding you through your next chapter. Along with Siobhan Mattingly, I am Gary Byron. Well, it’s nice to see you, Siobhan.

How are you?

Speaker 2
I’m very good. How was your week? It was awesome. I just came back from Maine.

Speaker 1
You are kidding. Whereabouts?

Speaker 2
I went to Wells.

Speaker 1
well is that close to like Kennebunk or Kittery and yes

Speaker 2
we actually did all of that we just you know Portland we did all of it we had so much fun

Speaker 1
very nice yeah the beaches

Speaker 2
are absolutely beautiful I heard

Speaker 1
a friend of mine no kidding just this past uh was it last weekend last weekend she was in a gun quit

Speaker 2
yes yep and then

Speaker 1
uh some at Kennebunk and then they went to some of the outlets in Kittery

Speaker 2
yes yeah there’s a lot going on

Speaker 1
there and oh my goodness i heard all about this trip and i was jealous because i have yet to take here we are uh my goodness in um late july almost august now and i have not taken a vacation yeah

Speaker 2
it’s a good place to go it’s like 10 degrees cooler there so it was a perfect time to be there because it’s like it was hot here everyone’s like oh it’s so hot and i’m scorching yeah it was nice

Speaker 1
i’m so jealous yeah i got it i’m my own worst enemy no seriously i have the time people always I have not taken one vacation day yet.

Speaker 2
Oh, you got it.

Speaker 1
I know.

Speaker 2
Yeah.

Speaker 1
I did this. This happened to me a year ago. So finally the end of the year comes and they’re like, Gary, I’m not able to roll it over to the next year. So if I don’t use it, I lose it.

Speaker 2
Yeah.

Speaker 1
So I’m like, I ended up just taking like every Monday off from like Thanksgiving on, like till the new year. You got to have seven days.

Speaker 2
Thank you. Seven days. You got to do it.

Because it’s that third day when you’re actually on vacation. The first three days, you’re just like, ah, keyed up from whatever’s going on at home. And then that third day, you’re like, oh.

Speaker 1
That’s, I never looked at it like that. But once you said it, that makes, you’re 100% right. Yes.

It’s just getting acclimated into the new routine. You’re getting out. Yeah, that’s. All right.

See the things we learned here on this show. Encourage and empower.

Speaker 2
See, we’ve done it.

Speaker 1
What’s going on over at Avery Heights, Siobhan?

Speaker 2
Well, as you know, I’m fairly new there. So I’m a couple months old. What I found out the other day is they have a brunch on Sunday. I love brunch. Remember Charlie’s Place in West Hartford?

Speaker 1
I do. That’s now, was that the?

Speaker 2
Hartford Health Care. Yes. Yes.

Best brunch ever. Really? I never had brunch there.

We have a brunch. Yeah. And coming up, not this month, but next month, we’re going to start to do little giveaways with our brunch.

But we’re going to have carving stations and omelet stations and fresh Belgian waffles. And yeah, brunch is like.

Speaker 1
Pardon me? Yes.

Speaker 2
Oh, my goodness. Yeah, they do it every Sunday. Every Sunday they have a brunch from, it goes from, what does it go, from 10 to 2.

And I’m like, what? Yeah. These are the things you want to know when I get hired, right?

Speaker 1
How do you get invited to this gig? My goodness.

Speaker 2
Yeah, so stay tuned. It’s going to be awesome.

Speaker 1
All right.

Speaker 2
I’m very excited about that.

Speaker 1
Well, I’m glad. Boy, when I ask you what’s going on, you went right for the gusto there. I know.

It’s all about the food. You know what? Now, listen, these microphones are powerful.

It’s going to be picking up the gurgling in my stomach now. You’re going to be like, oh, my goodness, Gary, did you hear that thunder? I know.

Nope. Sorry, Siobhan. That’s just my stomach rumbling.

You gave me away.

Speaker 2
I don’t know. I don’t want to tell you about the lobster I had in Maine.

Speaker 1
Well, when in Rome, right? I mean, of course you’ve got to eat Maine lobsters.

Speaker 2
Lazy man, though, because then they soak it in the butter.

Speaker 1
Lobster down here is so expensive now.

Speaker 2
Yeah, and it’s a little tough. Just within one year. And it’s tough. It’s not, you know, it’s fresh up there. It just melts in your mouth.

Speaker 1
I’ll bet. You’re not done rubbing this in, are you?

Speaker 2
No, no.

Speaker 1
I’m going to get this all show.

Speaker 2
The brunch and the lobster.

Speaker 1
You’re killing me. Oh, my goodness. If you’ve known how long I’ve been here this morning, locked up in this studio.

You’re cracking me up. All right. So the search for senior living here.

This edition of your next chapter, we’re going to be highlighting tips and giving guidance That’s when you are conducting your search for a senior living community. Okay, so let’s start here. Siobhan, what is your role in this process?

In other words, how do you help older adults during their search?

Speaker 2
Yeah, so I like to act as more of like a consultant.

Speaker 1
Okay.

Speaker 2
You know, my thing is I don’t, you know, yes, I’m marketing, I’m sales, I’m renting apartments, whatever, but I like to just take a step back and listen. And sometimes, you know, they’re not moving into Avery Heights and I have resources for them. So I don’t like to come off like you must come here kind of thing.

And then I listen and it comes off a lot better. I mean being a consultant, it just – it works better for them. It works better for me.

And it actually gets them the information that they need. Yeah, I would imagine. And so I definitely – yeah.

So I definitely take that time to be that. And even if people come back like a year later, it’s awesome, or a month later or what have you, they’ll come back. And not only that, they refer other people because they don’t – no one likes to be like a used car salesman.

I’m not selling cars. I’m not selling widgets.

Speaker 1
That high pressure. So here’s our – here’s our – CDX.

Speaker 2
I want you to sign right now. These are people’s lives. And I always tell them that.

Oh, I can’t decide. Do I have to decide? Because there’s always a point in the tour where people get nervous and they think that – you’re using that language of in your apartment or just naturally you just do.

And you kind of take a step back like, no, this is a big decision. You take your time to figure out what you want to do.

Speaker 1
It’s such a personal choice, too. Oh, definitely.

Speaker 2
Definitely.

Speaker 1
You know, I mean, you want, of course, you’re talking about food, but you want the grounds. You want the accessibility to staff. Yes. But you’ve got to have that comfort zone.

Speaker 2
Yeah. You’ve got to feel kind of that warm, fuzzy. It’s true.

You know, you want to feel connected. You want to feel like, you know, there’s that whole situation where everyone’s just so friendly, like Fantasy Island. That’s what I always think of when I have a tour guide.

Everybody, everybody, you know. And it’s not like that. I mean, you know, they come in, they take the tour, and we are who we are.

Speaker 1
This is kind of off the beaten path a little bit, but it’s the first place my mind went to when you started talking about that comfort zone. Have you ever been invited to someone’s house? Could be the holidays.

Could be a summer cookout or something. And you’re pulling in and go, wow, this is a beautiful neighborhood. Look, this is a gorgeous house.

And you go in, and it’s beautiful. There’s no question about it. but you feel out of place.

You feel, it’s not warm. It’s not inviting. It’s not the word, like cozy, warm and fuzzy and cozy.

It’s beautiful. Make no mistake. There’s not a person that would say it’s not a beautiful home, but it’s not home, like home in air quotes.

Speaker 2
You don’t want it to feel cold or sterile. That’s it. And you want to, you know, I have tours.

Oh my gosh, I’ve had tours go for like three hours. And sometimes I’m juggling two tours at the same time because I have one that’s running a little over, but I’m not going to rush them out. I’ll go have some lunch, you know, or go check out the entertainment or, you know, sometimes people just stay for a long time.

And I like that, you know, because you want to experience the community, you know? That’s great.

Speaker 1
I’m glad to hear that. You’re right. This is a, this is a, you can’t make impulsive decisions.

Speaker 2
No. And I don’t want anyone to move in and not feel like it was a good decision. I don’t want to, the last thing I want is for someone to, you know, rush into it and get all excited about it and then go, wait a minute, what did I do? I want them to make the decision. I’ve had people come back two, three, four times, bring more family members. It’s important.

Speaker 1
Typically, how long does it take to make this decision?

Speaker 2
It depends. Sometimes people are just ready. Sometimes they’re just, you know, I’ve had couples where one person is the caregiver, the other person is unfortunately compromised medically, maybe dementia or COPD or something like that, and they’re just ready.

They don’t have a life. The caregiver doesn’t have a life because, you know, they want to be with their loved one. When you come into the senior living community, you have the opportunity to, you know, kind of get your life back as husband or wife or your significant other.

You’re able to kind of go to activities, have dinner, you know, be able to have but also know that your loved one is taken care of, you know, by aides and by nurses. And you can even leave for the day, you know, go out on outings and so forth. And it’s nice because then when you come back together, it’s like it should be.

You know, you talk about your day. What did you do today? What did you do today?

If you’re sitting in the house, just the two of you, it’s like, what did you do today? Well, we watch TV all day. Or you know what I mean?

And that person is not able to live. You know, they like to maybe they can still swim and games and make friends. But what’s nice is the couple can make friends together too.

That’s a great point. Yeah.

Speaker 1
Last week we reviewed this. But when is the best time you think it is to start the search?

Speaker 2
Yeah. Kind of exactly what I said, that isolation. I really want to bring that home.

It’s like if you’re sitting at home and the first thing you do is grab the remote and flip on the TV and that TV doesn’t go off till 9, 10 o’clock at night and you’ve been sitting there that whole time, then it’s time. It’s like we’re here for a reason. And if we’re still here, we need to go live our lives.

You know what I mean? We need to be around people. We’re still able to offer conversation and information and just to be alive.

I love, like I was saying before, the greatest thing I love is to see a new person move in, and especially a couple. And one couple is maybe at the music, and then one couple maybe comes back from the shopping outing. And they’ve got all the bags, and the other person – and they connect somehow in the lobby.

And they’re laughing and smiling because they’ve had their time and you’ve had your time. And it’s just beautiful. So when you’re isolating at home, that’s when really is the best time, especially during COVID.

So many people just kind of locked down. And again, all over the news, older adults can get it worse and it’s scary. And so many people just kind of went into their bubble.

And unfortunately, that’s more detrimental to your health. We’re people. We need – we’re human beings.

We need contact. That’s how we were built. We were built to have contact with other people.

Speaker 1
Completely agree.

Speaker 2
To embrace with other people, to conversation and to love other people. We’re not meant to be in isolation. That’s not our thing.

Speaker 1
There’s nothing more satisfying than seeing a parent who is, like you said, is home. They get up in the morning. They watch TV from 9 o’clock in the morning until 11 o’clock when they’re ready to go to bed.

And maybe they’ve opened the windows, but they haven’t gone outside. Or maybe they walked around the house just to water some of the garden, but they’re not driving. So they come right back in the house, and they make themselves lunch.

and then it’s right back in front of the tube. Then maybe they read a little while, then they head right back into the tube. Like you said, we’re meant, your human beings are meant to socialize, and they’re not.

And maybe their child or their grandchild calls them up, and they just keep them on the phone, because they’re lonely. They have no one to talk to. I knew a mailman one time who used to, he goes, Gary, the hardest time is, I’m timed on my route.

I don’t mind spending an extra couple minutes and shoot the breeze, But sometimes our seniors will keep me there and I’m like, I got to go. Otherwise, it’s like a domino effect. They get home at 8 o’clock at night and they’re like, where were you?

You’re supposed to be home hours ago. I’m talking to some people on my room. Yeah, okay, sure you were.

But no, but seriously, and then they’re lonely. But then when you contrast that up against what you just described, where that very same person who seemed lonely in front of the TV with not much else to do interacting with people from their generation that they’ve got stories to share with each other.

Speaker 2
Yeah. You go to lunch. I mean, our dining room, you go from your apartment, you go to lunch.

There’s nothing like talking to somebody at lunch rather than talking to yourself. Yeah. If you’re knitting, there’s a knitting club.

If you like theater, there’s a theater club. If gardening, there’s gardening. There’s, you know, there’s all sorts of stuff.

There’s pool. There’s a putting green. There’s all sorts of stuff to do.

And why not? Why not live a life as opposed to, you know, I want to be in my house? Well, I understand that.

Well, I kind of understand and I kind of don’t because I think we’re just different generation. Like my house is wonderful, but my husband and I, like I said, we were in Maine and we were talking about, okay, where do we want to live? Where do we want to move?

So we’re not as attached to our home. But I understand people that if you’ve been in a house for 50 years, your kids were raised there and all that stuff, of course you want to be there. But if it’s detrimental to your health, you know, you ask the question, when is the best time?

If it’s detrimental to your health, to your full well-being, you know, spiritually, mentally, physically, all that stuff. If it’s detrimental to that, then it’s time to do something different.

Speaker 1
And Siobhan, how often do you come across a scenario where kids, I shouldn’t say kids because they’re grown adults and probably have families of their own. Yeah, adult children. Adult children.

Thank you. Adult children, yes. That for whatever reason, more likely work, but they’ve had to move away.

And that doesn’t mean, oh, I’m leaving mom or I’m leaving dad back. Sometimes I don’t want to move away, but this is where my job has taken me. Why don’t you come?

I can’t leave this home. It’s all I know. Okay.

And you’re stuck between a rock and a hard place. I’ve got to go. My job, I’m not saying it’s across the country, but it’s certainly not within driving distance.

And then you’re constantly worried. Is mom, is dad okay? What, God forbid, if something happened at 2 o’clock in the morning or they fell down the stair.

And how would I know? I’m not, I like to be driving distance, but I can’t. This is peace. This is knowing that mom, dad, they’re safe here.

Speaker 2
When we have 24 hour receptionists, I was saying that earlier before we went on the air. It’s like, which is great. I mean, like, so 24 hours a day, if your loved one is there, you can pick up the phone and go, hey, my dad’s not picking up the phone or what have you. How comforting is that? And, you know, it is scary to think of what’s going on with my loved one, especially if they have dementia or Alzheimer’s or some type of medical condition where you can’t be close by.

Speaker 1
Let’s review the suggested search steps, right?

Speaker 2
Yes.

Speaker 1
Okay.

Speaker 2
So know what you need. So don’t just go out there and just go, okay, they need to be in assisted living or they need to be here or there. Know what you need, where location, what you need in terms of medical, what you need.

And sometimes people like certain kind of food. Whatever these things are, make a list of that so that you’re not just going to all sorts of places wasting your time. I’ve had people go to like come to me and they go, oh, we went to 10, 12 places.

And then they decide on our place and it’s like, well, if you kind of made that list, you knew what you needed, you would have narrowed that down and not waste so much time. So know what you need. Establish a budget.

Look at those finances before – it’s like buying a car or anything. Look at those finances before you leave, before you head out and do your tours so you know. So you’re not sitting there and someone puts a rate card in front of you.

You’re like, oh, I’m not sure if we can afford that. Well, you just wasted an hour touring something that might not make any sense. So know your finances.

And if you’re the adult child, talk to your family member. Talk to your parent and say, hey, you know, can we take a look at your accounts and your investment accounts and how much is the house worth? All that stuff.

Do all that homework ahead of time so when you’re out looking, you’re looking seriously and you’re not wasting time. That’s super, super important. And when I’m making these suggestions, one of the things you have to think of is like this is not something we do all the time.

It’s not like we grow up and we go to the mall, we buy a dress or pants or whatever. These are things we do all the time. Senior living is not something we do and it’s not something people talk about.

When do you talk about senior living? When you’re an adult child or when you’re older. Otherwise, you’re not thinking about, oh, how do you shop for an assisted living?

It’s just not something that happens. So don’t feel threatened if you don’t know the steps. Again, determine that location and area.

Where do you want to be? I want to be in Hartford. I want to be close to West Hartford.

Wherever you want to be, determine that so that, again, you’re narrowing that shirt. List what you want and you must have. So you have what you need.

So medically, maybe something that you need.

Speaker 1
Oh, right.

Speaker 2
But your wants and what you must have. I must have a terrace. I must have a two-bedroom.

I must have – Do you have that? We do. We have two bedrooms.

So we have that. yeah, I must have a full kitchen. I must not have a full kitchen.

Maybe someone has dementia. I don’t, you know, if they do have a full kitchen, can they turn off the stove? So determine what you must, you want and what you must have.

Visit the community’s websites. Don’t even, don’t just go to the community and do the tour. Look at the website, look at the pictures, look at what’s going on there so you can get some pre-information.

Read the online reviews, like with anything. If you’re picking out a restaurant, you’re going to read the reviews, but read them carefully because sometimes people get angry and they’ll put something out there. Look at the response.

See who that, if it says anonymous and it’s someone angry, okay, clearly they’re not owning their stuff.

Speaker 1
Be careful with the reviews. These online reviews sometimes. There’s a restaurant that I go to all the time.

I love it. It’s value. It’s a great meal and for the amount of money that you spend, it’s phenomenal.

A friend of mine, I don’t know, went there. I didn’t like it, wrote him a bad review. That’s not even justified.

Why would you write a bad review on them? Yeah. I’ve never had a bad meal there, and the value is out of this world.

Yeah, I don’t know.

Speaker 2
I don’t do it. It’s preference, too, especially food. I can see, like, reviews about, oh, the place was dirty.

You know, like when I was going to Maine, we were looking at hotel reviews. So that’s important for me to know. But if you don’t like the color green on the walls, that’s not really – No, exactly.

That’s a preference, you know?

Speaker 1
And sometimes people are way, I’ve been to hotels where it’s like out of five stars, there’s only three. And I’m like, well, it’s the only choice that we have, babe. But they’re nice.

Speaker 2
And I go, I’m like, where’s the three? I don’t understand it. Sometimes they’re better than some of the ones that get fives.

Speaker 1
Right?

Speaker 2
Five-star hotels, yeah.

Speaker 1
I think online ratings are, maybe competitors write them. I don’t know. But I don’t put a lot of credence in some of these online reviews.

Speaker 2
Some of the negative ones, just be careful. Because again, like you said, it could be someone who’s just angry.

Speaker 1
Exactly.

Speaker 2
Go and visit and visit again. So don’t just go tour once and then put that application in. Go come back again.

Bring other people with you. Oh, good. Bring other people with you and ask lots of questions.

There’s no stupid questions. There’s no, oh, am I asking too many questions? No. Ask a ton of questions.

I mentioned last time AARP is a great place to get a nice question list, a really good question list, and ask the questions. And do a spreadsheet of your pros and cons. So, you know, get into I’m a big Excel person, but if you want to just do it on a notebook or if there’s some type of app or program out there where you can do pros and cons, that’s important.

And list them all out on the paper and then make your decision.

Speaker 1
Folks, you are listening to your next chapter of production of Avery Heights Senior Living Community, along with Siobhan, Siobhan Mattingly. I am Gary Byron. What are some helpful tips? Like maybe you shouldn’t be doing.

Speaker 2
Yeah. So don’t get swayed by the shiny chandeliers. There’s a lot of new communities out there.

They got the big movie studio. They’ve got this. They’ve got that. It’s absolutely gorgeous.

But you got to look at the experience. You have to look at if they’re especially if it’s brand new. There’s nothing wrong with a brand new community, but you have to look at the experience.

The team hasn’t been together that long. So you have to really pay attention to that. Don’t get swayed by, oh, my gosh, it’s just because it’s about the care.

It’s about the food. It’s about the activities. It’s about so much more than that.

Yes, a beautiful, shiny community. If you’re into the glitz and glamour, absolutely. But go deeper than that.

Don’t just be like, oh, my gosh, you know, because that can get you into trouble.

Speaker 1
It’s like the person who’s selling the car and they washed it, waxed it, took care of the wheels. But I’m like, buddy, it’s still a piece of junk under the hood. It looks pristine, right?

And I’m like, this car looks immaculate, but looks are only, you know, you’re looking at the car and it’s like, you know, people don’t really know until you drive it, right? That’s a, you know. Yeah, I know.

I’m glad you bring that up, though.

Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1
That’s a good point.

Speaker 2
Don’t think about only your financials. I mentioned this before. So don’t think about, you know, oh, this is affordable or this is cheaper.

Don’t just think about that. If you want the community, go back and make that phone call. Say, hey, I really like your community.

How can we make this work? Because sure enough, people can do different things to help you out, whether it’s something on the rate or whether it’s a program that’s out there. Don’t just think about your financials because that can get you in trouble too.

If you go for like the most cheapest affordable thing, but again, you go back to your needs and wants and all that and you’re crossing things off, that’s a problem. So don’t just think with your financials in mind. Don’t make that a positive decision because we can.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, she’s so nice. We’re all nice.

Speaker 1
If you work in this industry, you hope, you know.

Speaker 2
It’s like that Lego movie with the police officer. He’s got the two sides of his face. He’s got the smiley face.

Oh, right, right, right. The other side is like, ah. So just remember, there’s another side to that face.

So don’t make an impulsive decision. Go home, think about it, and go from there. We just talked about this person you’re meeting with is a salesperson, so always remember that.

Don’t go on your tours alone. Bring a friend. Bring a family member.

On that, too, don’t take mom or dad, if you’re the adult child or your loved one, don’t take them on the first tour, especially if they’re medically challenged or have conditions. Don’t take them on the first tour because when you’re sitting there having conversations about their medical health over them, oh, she does this or she has this problem. And it’s the most degrading thing for that older adult, regardless if they have dementia and they don’t understand.

They understand something. And so it’s always good to go on the tour by yourself, ask all your questions. And then that second tour is that VIP tour for your loved one.

Speaker 1
Gotcha.

Speaker 2
And they’re going to get wined and dined. And that’s the best way to do it.

Speaker 1
So if you’re a caregiver or a loved one, what can you do then to ease the transition for the person that’s moving into the senior living community?

Speaker 2
Yeah. That first one I just said, make sure that you don’t take them on the first tour. Have respect.

there’s a human being there. There’s someone that made their own decisions, had their own thoughts, and so include them as part of it. Even if they have anything that mentally, you know, they’re challenged or what have you, still include them as part of the process because however you can, that’s how you can ease it. And then, you know, use…

Speaker 1
Easing their stress.

Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. Use movers, use organizers, you know, and different folks like that to get them involved.

Speaker 1
How about this? As an adult child, how can you approach your parents or loved one with the idea of moving to a senior living community? I would imagine you’ve got to broach that delicately.

Speaker 2
You do.

Speaker 1
Maybe incrementally as well.

Speaker 2
Yes. Yes. Take your time. First of all, let them listen to them.

I don’t want to leave my home. I don’t want to be around strangers. Listen, listen, and don’t listen with the – don’t just disregard what they’re saying.

Pay attention. Don’t push, but be firm. So you don’t want to be wishy-washy either.

If it has to happen, it’s got to happen, but don’t be too pushy. Say, hey, let’s go have lunch. Hey, they offered us some lunch or coffee over there or whatever, and work with your advisor, the person who’s doing the tour, like I said, the consultant.

Work with them to help you to create this VIP experience.

Speaker 1
Listen, I know some strangers are strange. But there’s some strangers are just a friend you haven’t met yet. I mean, everybody’s. Exactly.

Never met you a few weeks back, you know, and then look at us now, you know. So just because you haven’t met the person, don’t write that individual off. In fact, you’re a stranger to them and you’re a good person.

And you know that. One final question before we wrap things up here this morning. What do you think is the future of senior living communities?

Speaker 2
Yeah. Well, I definitely think it’s going to be more based on like having education, like a life. Like I love these ones that they’re starting to have where they’re part of a college.

You know what I mean? Really? So they’re part of the university.

So you can take classes and courses and yeah, and kind of be in school almost like in that senior living communities like your dorm. I think that that I think is an amazing thing. We’re actually trying to forge in a partnership with Trinity College because we’re right down the road from them.

And so we’re trying to get that going. So I think that that – and I think that especially like in states like Connecticut, we definitely have to get more programs. It’s the people who are in the middle.

It’s not if you have a lot of money or if you have no money, there are programs. Or a lot of money obviously you can afford at private pay, no money, there are programs. But the people in the middle, that’s where there’s a struggle.

It’s like you only have limited funds. And sometimes you have Social Security. You do have some money saved, but it’s not enough to afford senior living.

And so I think that that’s something. And I know there are several representatives and people in the government that are trying – in Connecticut that are trying to come up with these programs. But we really have to have something for that middle person who their finances are just so – you know, just – you know.

Speaker 1
Boy, when you had my attention when you said like they can take a course or a class. Yeah.

Speaker 2
Yeah.

Speaker 1
That’s art classes. Yeah. Sculpting or. Exactly.

Speaker 2
Or history.

Speaker 1
Gardening history. Yeah.

Speaker 2
Yeah.

Speaker 1
I like what I’m hearing.

Speaker 2
I know. I know. I think that’s definitely going to be the future.

We’re definitely going to have to get more robust with our activities because as people get older, we get older. Sure. We’re not as.

Active. Yeah. We’re more active.

We’re active adults. Exactly.

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