Speaker 1
Good Saturday morning to everybody, it’s time for your next chapter of production of the Heights at Avery Heights, a one-of-a-kind senior living community centrally located near the most entertaining and historical spots in Connecticut. Now this show is dedicated to empowering older adults with helpful resources, ideas, inspiration, tips to encourage them on their life’s journey. Our production is also dedicated to the younger generation so they can better understand how to develop greater communication and enjoyment for those elders in their community.

Speaker 1
Along with Siobhan Mattingly, I’m Gary Byron. Siobhan is a senior living specialist over at the Heights. Good to see you.

Speaker 1
Good morning, Siobhan. Good to see you. How was your week?

Speaker 1
My week was awesome. Of course it is. You know, every time I ask you that question, it’s always awesome.

Speaker 1
I got to start hanging out with you. I want awesome looks.

Speaker 2
I do. I went to go see Ant-Man and the Wasp. Really good.

Speaker 1
Oh, that’s out already. Ooh, I haven’t heard that yet from my little guy.

Speaker 2
Supposedly this is phase five for the whole Marvel universe, and it’s pretty cool.

Speaker 1
Did you see the, I think it came out about a year ago, the Spider-Man that came out a year ago? Yes, yes.

Speaker 2
Is that Far From Home or Welcome Back Home? Yes, I did. I was great. Yes. Well, this is really good, too.

Speaker 1
And the Spider-Man, didn’t they have all the actors who portrayed Spider-Man?

Speaker 2
Yes, that’s what made it really good. Yeah, wasn’t that really awesome? And actually, my favorite, and I don’t know his actor name, but the second one, the one with the black hair, that’s my favorite, actually.

Speaker 1
Is that Christian Bale? Andrew Garfield. Oh, you know, Andrew Garfield is the one right now, I think.

Speaker 1
He’s the new, no? There’s already a new Spider-Man? Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2
Yeah, no, the new one’s the younger kid, yeah. But I like the middle one, thank you.

Speaker 1
What is it? Tom Holland. You can hear Jimmy J, the producer in the background.

Speaker 1
See, I don’t know him. In fact, I’ll have to confess, it’s the only Spider-Man movie I’ve ever seen. But I did know.

Speaker 1
I was aware of the other. Let me tell you this.

Speaker 2
What?

Speaker 1
I’ve never seen it.

Speaker 2
I think that was like three. Spider-Man 3.

Speaker 1
I’ve never even seen a Batman movie.

Speaker 2
I thought you were going to say you didn’t see the other movie. And if you do, I have to leave. And I’ll come back when you’ve seen them all.

Speaker 2
I’m serious. Lisa and I will leave. Bye.

Speaker 1
I may have seen one. And the last, like, for me, Superman, it will always be Christopher Reeve. Superman. I know.

Speaker 2
Christopher, what? Where are you?

Speaker 1
I’m 53 years old here. What do you expect?

Speaker 2
I’m older than you, and I would never quote that I expect Superman. I didn’t say George Reeves.

Speaker 1
At least I didn’t say that.

Speaker 2
I didn’t say Adam West. I thought I was going to say Adam West, yes. Well, those are really funny, though.

Speaker 2
Remember Pam? Yeah. Those were hysterical.

Speaker 2
Yeah, with the graphics on it. Yes, yes. Of course.

Speaker 2
Those are the best, yeah.

Speaker 1
But somebody, I saw a commercial. Was it during the Super Bowl? It was just recently.

Speaker 1
Or the Daytona 500 or whatever. I thought I saw Michael Keaton. Is he…

Speaker 1
Oh, is he coming back? He’s coming back as Batman.

Speaker 2
He was good as Batman.

Speaker 1
All right, before we go on, really quickly. Who’s all about that? There was Michael Keaton.

Speaker 2
See, I’m a Marvel girl.

Speaker 1
George Clooney.

Speaker 2
So I can’t help… Oh, and then Ben Affleck.

Speaker 1
Ben Affleck? Yeah.

Speaker 2
And the guy from…

Speaker 1
I didn’t know that.

Speaker 2
Oh, gosh. The guy, Christian… What’s his name?

Speaker 2
Christian Bale. Christian Bale, but the other one. The one that…

Speaker 2
Val Kilmer.

Speaker 1
Oh, Val Kilmer. Yes.

Speaker 2
Right.

Speaker 1
Look at this. Is that it?

Speaker 2
The one with the vampire movie. He’s one, too.

Speaker 1
The vampire movie? Interview with a vampire?

Speaker 2
He was just the…

Speaker 1
No.

Speaker 2
He’s the latest one. I can’t think of his name. Good Lord.

Speaker 1
Now we’re going to get phone calls and emails.

Speaker 2
I know, but he was. He was just it, too. He just played Batman.

Speaker 1
Oh, the latest…

Speaker 2
The last one, yeah.

Speaker 1
I’m wrong.

Speaker 2
Vampire movies.

Speaker 1
You don’t know what I’m saying?

Speaker 2
Speaking of… We’ve got a guest here this morning.

Speaker 1
Why don’t we… What’s our topic today? I know, right? She’s like, I don’t know anything about this. Why don’t you introduce our guests and we’ll get into our topic of discussion.

Speaker 2
All right, these are Marvel first. We have to start there.

Speaker 3
Oh, Marvel.

Speaker 2
Okay, good. See, now I’m with you.

Speaker 3
Sure. I’m with you on that.

Speaker 2
So this is the wonderful Lisa Marshall. She wrote an incredible book. I think I can hold it up.

Speaker 2
Can I hold it up? This is called Oh, Hello, Alzheimer’s. And it’s an incredible story. I actually had the great pleasure of reading it.

Speaker 2
And I’m looking forward to having her actually come to our community at the Heights to meet with some of our residents and maybe to speak at our caregiver support group. All the time we have, unfortunately, folks that kind of face what she faced and faced it amazingly with grace and dignity. And what I always love is someone who takes that pain and makes it into something amazing to help other people.

Speaker 2
So I’m very honored to meet you.

Speaker 1
Thank you so much. Thanks for being here. You know, I just want to piggyback on that last statement because quite often, regardless of the situation, you know, you sit there and say, what good can come of this?

Speaker 1
And you sit there and say to yourself, nothing, no good, no good. How can any good come from this? But the truth of the matter is there’s a book here that was written by our guest this morning.

Speaker 1
And while it’s probably a book she never thought she would ever write or even ever wanted to write, if there’s somebody that can take something away by reading this book and help them, then, look, I’m not here to sugarcoat any of what you had to endure with your loss, But at least it’s a tiny smidgen consolation of knowing something slightly did, you know, favorable, did come out of this. Tell me a little bit about your husband, Peter. I’m a little familiar myself of your background, but maybe for the listeners here, just hearing this for the very first time before he became ill and maybe the history of your relationship, if you don’t mind.

Speaker 3
Sure, sure. So we met in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, where I grew up. Peter grew up here in Connecticut.

Speaker 3
And so we were neighbors, married to different people. We were together for five years or, you know, neighbors for five years. And then Peter got offered a job in Hartford.

Speaker 3
And so he moved away with his family. And I stayed in Harrisburg. We lost connection.

Speaker 3
We didn’t talk for a long time. And then we reconnected later. When we reconnected, we were both divorced.

Speaker 3
And so we were 326 miles apart and began a romantic relationship, which lasted eight years long distance.

Speaker 2
So every other weekend we would drive.

Speaker 3
Yeah, we had a beautiful connection. And so that’s how we met. And then eventually in 2009, when my last child went to college, I sold my house and transferred to Hartford. And we got married and lived happily ever after until we didn’t.

Speaker 1
You don’t hear too often people moving into Connecticut from out of state, but that’s a conversation for another day. Tell me about maybe your journey into the world of Alzheimer’s and really the tough decision that I’m sure you had that you were pressed upon in order to write this book. It’s entitled Oh Hello, Alzheimer’s. Where did you get the title?

Speaker 1
And tell me about your journey to writing this book. Have you ever authored anything before? Or was this a book that was always inside you that wanted to come out?

Speaker 3
I was a co-author in a Chicken Soup for the Soul book. Yeah, Navigating Eldercare and Dementia. So that was my first kind of dipping my toe in.

Speaker 3
And then I wrote the book. But the title came from, I author an international blog by the same title, Oh, Hello to Alzheimer’s. And it just came to me because who expects that when you’re 53 years old to get handed a death sentence? You know, an Alzheimer’s diagnosis so young.

Speaker 3
So I was like, oh, hello, Alzheimer’s. Now I need to do some research because I literally knew nothing about it.

Speaker 1
This may be a tough question, but I’m going to ask anyhow. Let’s go back to the very onset of discovering that your husband had some memory loss. Because, and I’m just going to shoot from the hip here.

Speaker 1
It can be, and don’t misinterpret this, it can be kind of funny at first. You know, it’s like, you know, you, you know, you never you could always remember that your childhood things. You could tell me what you did in your senior year in high school, but you can’t tell me, you know, which what you had for dinner last night.

Speaker 1
And we’re not even we’re just being goofy, not even realizing that there’s something going on here. So when did you first realize that your husband started to have some memory loss?

Speaker 3
You know, it’s the things that we do as we get older. We walk into a room and we think, why did I come in this room? Or you forget your keys.

Speaker 3
You go out to the car, you don’t have your keys. You forget your wallet. All those things that you can just explain away, right?

Speaker 3
That’s how it started. And then it progressed to he was losing his bank of words and his vocabulary. So he would start to describe things rather than use the word.

Speaker 3
So, you know, the thing we get on when we go to visit our son and take our, you know, luggage, He was describing the word airplane, but he had lost that word. So that was happening more and more often. But we were at a time where we were planning to retire early.

Speaker 3
Our goal and our sights were set on the age of 60.

Speaker 1
Sure.

Speaker 3
Right? And so we thought we had everything in line. And then at 53, we were handed the diagnosis.

Speaker 3
So the way that it transpired for me to take him to the doctor was friends and family started to notice. And they would pull me aside. You know, and these are the brave friends who are kind enough to say something’s going on here.

Speaker 3
And so now I was accountable. I was accountable to Peter and to myself to get a diagnosis.

Speaker 1
Lisa, I got a follow up question to that, but I want to move this over to Siobhan right now. With memory care that The Heights offers, is her story pretty typical? Is that normally how this happens where, you know, people are forgetting their keys or, you know, where did I put my phone? Or, you know, and then verbiage, word, language.

Speaker 2
Yeah, most definitely. Is that what you see? Yeah, and I think, too, we were talking before the show that, unfortunately, we have a lot of that husband and wives, too, where, unfortunately, that spouse has to go into our memory care.

Speaker 2
And it’s sad. We’ve had over the last, after Christmas, we’ve had three of those. And they’re fairly young.

Speaker 2
I mean, they’re like in their 70s. One of them was a person that was part of a big law firm. And so it’s really sad to see. And it’s, you know, you’re in your office and you’re, you know, talking about going into memory care and I’m doing my normal, you know, kind of explanation.

Speaker 2
And unfortunately, that person just breaks down. And that’s when I just kind of clear my desk and clear it and just kind of just spend that time. And unfortunately, I’ve had to do that like, you know, a couple of times within the last couple of months.

Speaker 2
And it’s hard. And it’s hard to the day of as well. We just had that actually this week, the day of where she had to drop him off.

Speaker 2
And, you know, she lives in our cottages and then she had to have them. And, you know, that’s really hard. And luckily we have our caregiver support group to help folks like that.

Speaker 1
Lisa, when you initiated this conversation with your husband, I can only imagine how emotional it was. But were you met with some pushback from your husband by saying, oh, come on, I think you’re overreacting. Yes.

Speaker 1
Yeah, I mean, how it was this. And I’m sorry for it. If I’m delving too deep here, if it’s too personal, let me know.

Speaker 1
And I think there’s other questions I have for you. But the only thing I have in my mind is like an intervention. Were there other family members, friends, were they there?

Speaker 1
Or was this more one-on-one? And did this start an argument where what in the world are you saying?

Speaker 3
How did this go down? That’s a lot of questions, but I’ll try to remember them all. I know.

Speaker 3
First of all, we did not argue very much at all. Peter was of the belief that he would say constantly, happy wife, happy life. So, no, there was no arguing.

Speaker 3
If I said something’s wrong, you’re going to the doctor. He was like, okay. And he said to his PCP, she thinks there’s something wrong.

Speaker 1
Well, nobody likes going to the doctor, especially being told they’ve got to go to the doctor.

Speaker 3
Right. So it wasn’t an intervention at all. It was just me loving Peter and taking good care of him.

Speaker 1
Any pushback? Nothing at all? He was just so compliant with that guy.

Speaker 1
Happy wife, happy life. I’ll go. But there wasn’t like, really?

Speaker 1
Was he in agreement?

Speaker 3
I think that he felt there was some things wrong with him as well. And even after the diagnosis, which was a year and some months later after we just went to our PCP, it was almost a year after that that he retired, quote unquote. And there was such a relief in him that he declined very swiftly. And I think he was just, he had this masquerade that he was trying to uphold and defend himself and pretend like there was nothing wrong. So much so that when he retired, it was just, he just breathed, you know.

Speaker 1
Was the decline rapid?

Speaker 3
Rapid. From diagnosis to death, three years and eight months.

Speaker 2
I think with early onset, it moves faster.

Speaker 1
fast. That was my next question for you, actually. Is this typical? I mean, because that sounds a little on the too quick side. Yeah, and it is sad

Speaker 2
because it does happen very quickly. I just think of

Speaker 1
Reagan. I read a lot of presidential biographies, autobiographies, and so on and so forth, and from the time that he announced that he had Alzheimer’s in the early 90s to the time that he passed away, I think that was 2004. I mean, a decade had gone by from the time that he announced it to the time that he had passed away. So I’m thinking sadly it’s a slow drawn out demise you’re telling me three years that sounds wow that sounds

Speaker 3
extremely rapid right but to clarify so three years and eight months from diagnosis to death i got you a year before was the initial visit to the pcp and there were signs before those signs that we discussed about losing your phone wallet keys and things like that so i would say from the The very first sign, in hindsight, 8 to 10 years.

Speaker 1
All right. And I guess that’s right on.

Speaker 2
And people do go undiagnosed for a while. Many people, when they come into the community to have a tour, they sit down and I’m like, well, do you have a diagnosis? And a lot of times there’s that fear of going to the doctor. And I tell them, you know, you have to get a diagnosis so we know how to help because you don’t know how to help if you don’t do that. So I’ll send them to UConn or someplace like that to, you know, get the proper care that they need.

Speaker 1
What are the signs? Is it usually language or is it, and I don’t want to speak so, you know, typical. Oh, I forgot my keys.

Speaker 1
I mean, anybody can forget their keys. That doesn’t mean you’ve got Alzheimer’s. It doesn’t even mean you’ve got memory loss. We’re all inundated with so many different outside, you know, media and so many things.

Speaker 1
So many, more now, I think, than ever trying to grab and fight for our attention. But how do you discern what’s just a normal, I’m being forgetful, and something that may be more serious? What are the signs that we should be looking for?

Speaker 3
I feel like it’s instinctual. You know, if you feel like something’s wrong, then something’s wrong. But for Peter, it was a lot of his short-term memory.

Speaker 3
And I would find him saying, oh, right, right, right, right, right, you know, often. Because I would have to remind him or say, oh, we’re going here. Or, you know, this person did this.

Speaker 3
And just repeating myself a lot. And he wouldn’t remember things that we had on our schedule or people who I was talking about.

Speaker 1
So he acknowledged a lot of this.

Speaker 3
Yes. In agreement with you. Yes.

Speaker 1
Did he show concern?

Speaker 3
Yes. He went through a very emotional period of six to 12 months, I would say, where he was constantly crying just because he could see what was happening. He knew what was happening, and he was very sad for us.

Speaker 1
How did this affect you?

Speaker 3
Oh, I was, wow, completely grief-stricken because the one thing that people don’t understand about the caregiver is that she or he is already mourning. the loss of their loved one because we’re caring for a body, a vessel. And the person that we married or the person that we love is no longer there because they’re just dissipating in front of our eyes. So it’s ambiguous grief. And we do a lot of the grieving before, you know, their bodies die.

Speaker 1
Folks, you are listening to your next chapter, Senior Living, presented to you by The Heights at Avery Heights, along with Siobhan Mattingly. I’m Gary Byron. And our guest this morning is Lisa Marshall, who has authored a book, Oh, Hello, Alzheimer’s, A Caregiver’s Journey of Love. You could pick this book up, I would presume, wherever you normally or typically purchase books, whether it’s Amazon or Barnes & Noble or whatnot. Lisa, how about maybe some tips that you can give to others who suspect that a loved one may have some memory loss issues?

Speaker 3
Yeah, I think you need to start with your primary care physician. That’s the very first step. You know, and typically, I know when we went to Peter’s doctor, I wanted three things.

Speaker 3
I wanted an MRI because I thought it was something, you know, not Alzheimer’s. And I wanted some blood work. And I wanted a neuro consult. And so we did walk out of there with those three things.

Speaker 3
And that’s really what started the ball rolling for us.

Speaker 1
Alzheimer’s is a form of dementia. And I think, and maybe you can both speak to this, quite often in the vernacular, people just use them interchangeably. Oh, they must have Alzheimer’s. Remember years ago?

Speaker 1
Oh, it was senile. You’re going senile. That’s a word.

Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Many years back. Right.

Speaker 1
Well, I think our generation can identify with that term because it was used constantly as well. But going back to the term of the diagnosis, if you will, of Alzheimer’s, it’s one form of dementia. But truth be told is that it’s under really the under the umbrella of dementia.

Speaker 1
There’s other forms of dementia as well. What specifically are the qualifications of Alzheimer’s and how do we differentiate that from other forms of dementia?

Speaker 3
I think the standard is the plaques that are tangling the brain, amyloid and tau proteins, I think. I’m no doctor, of course.

Speaker 1
But you’ve been educated a lot more with this than surely I have.

Speaker 3
Yeah. And one of the tests that they did when we went to Peter’s neurologist was they did a spinal tap to check the levels of those two proteins. And they were in alignment with the diagnosis. And that’s how they did come to the diagnosis of Alzheimer’s. Yeah.

Speaker 1
at the Heights, do you notice a difference between those who have Alzheimer’s and those who have

Speaker 2
a different form of dementia? Yeah. I mean, sometimes I think, and again, I’m not a medical either, but either like Lewy body or those types of dementias, I know that there’s a lot more behaviors. You know, people are, they really lose their inhibitions and they kind of will, you know, sometimes someone who never swore in their life maybe, and all of a sudden mom is just like a sailor. Right. It’s kind of, yeah. Or, you know, so that’s tough for people where they’re throwing things or they’re just angry. And that happens a lot of times where, like you were saying, the hardening of certain parts of the brain, it becomes the behaviors are a lot more intense

Speaker 1
than with others. Are there effective treatments? I mean, there’s no cure. We know that. But what can the medical society or families even, what can we do to make sure that, you know, the individual is as comfortable and that they’re being at least somewhat attended to.

Speaker 2
Yeah, I think for me, you know, it’s so sad to watch. We had one woman, unfortunately, it was brought on because of alcohol use for substance abuse. Sometimes people get dementia from that. And it just was so sad to watch. I mean, she could not sit still.

Speaker 2
It was probably the saddest thing I ever saw. And she was the sweetest lady. I remember she was just walking and walking and at one point you know every once in a while I would stop her and walk with her and she just that calmed her down but there was just no way to calm her down and unfortunately I mean she wouldn’t she couldn’t even sit down to eat I mean she was that nervous and that just just agitated um and unfortunately you know she ended up passing but to to comfort someone like that is very it’s just very challenging and it’s very sad um to watch and to see for me

Speaker 3
it’s just joining their journey wherever they are because their perception is typically skewed. And to argue or say, no, no, no, it’s not Monday, it’s Tuesday, or no, that’s not your sister, that’s your mother. It’s just you’re only going to create stress and elevate agitation. So just joining them wherever they are, making them feel confident and safe is really so important.

Speaker 2
I totally agree with that. That is the saddest thing to watch when, unfortunately, a caregiver is so frustrated with their loved one and they’re trying to convince them, you know, try to make them eat or try to convince them, you know, of the day. Remember, you used to like this or or when they’re trying to have them guess their name.

Speaker 2
That is like one of the things I learned from some of the training is that, you know, you introduce yourself and introduce at work all the time. I’m introducing myself to the people and I’ll say, oh, you know, I’m Siobhan or I’m Siobhan. I’m the director of marketing.

Speaker 2
And, you know, I might have done it yesterday, but it’s so important to introduce yourself.

Speaker 1
Sometimes I think the family members are suffering more than the actual.

Speaker 2
Yeah. Well, the loss, like she was saying, that grief starts early. And I think they are, you know, have some support groups for that as well, you know, because that grief doesn’t start. It starts at that diagnosis.

Speaker 1
Are there. So then let’s. I want to take that further. Are there resources available for the for the early stages of diagnosis?

Speaker 3
As far as medications.

Speaker 1
Any resource that’s available. You mentioned groups. Yep.

Speaker 1
There’s support groups. But I mean, yeah. Medications.

Speaker 1
Is there anything? And what are they?

Speaker 3
Sure. There’s support groups. There are daycare-type centers where people with Alzheimer’s can go and be in a safe community where they are led to different activities.

Speaker 3
Peter went to one for a little while, as long as he could. But for the family, the family really desperately needs support. And it’s hard to convince the family that they do need the support.

Speaker 1
I would imagine. I mean, it’s just… I don’t know what your background.

Speaker 1
any background in caregiving, but oh my goodness, you have to learn to be a caregiver, you know, pretty much overnight. And if you weren’t a caregiver before, you have to certainly be one, you know, at that point in time. We’ve only got a few minutes left. Any advice, any advice that you can offer our listeners to not just how to stay positive, but, you know, maybe even in terms of the disease itself? You know, the disease is going to really wreck you. It is emotionally,

Speaker 3
physically. I was never so exhausted in my life. But self-care is the most important thing. So if the caregiver is trying to provide care from an empty cup, they’re not going to be as kind and patient as they could be. So I developed four A’s. And this is just like my mantra. So A, you have to accept help when people ask you, what can I do? And secondly, you have to ask for help if no one’s helping you ask for what you need third articulate exactly what you need I need to go get a shower I need a nap I need to take a walk outside this house I need somebody to cook me a meal something that will help and support you I’m a very independent soul so I needed a fourth day and I thought maybe there were others that did too and so that’s the word actually so when someone would say to me can I help you with anything instead of saying no no no I’m good I made myself, I demanded that I use the word actually. So it helped me stay accountable. So can I help you with something actually? And I always had a list of things that I could just

Speaker 1
ask for. In just a few seconds, Siobhan, how does a caregiver, a spouse at home know that it’s time for them to maybe move into a memory care unit at a senior living facility? Yeah, that’s a great

Speaker 2
question. It’s exactly what she’s saying. When you had your cup is empty and it’s so important.

Speaker 2
And that’s one of the things I love about the book is that she really emphasizes that the caregiver has to take care of themselves. So many times we see that caregiver, unfortunately, passing away or getting sick prior, you know, before the person that has Alzheimer’s or dementia. And then, you know, one of the things that’s always good to do is to go to that senior living community so that if they do, you know, unfortunately get diagnosed with something that’s terminal, they will get that support.

Speaker 2
We just had back in December, we had a lovely couple and she went on hospice. She passed away. And now he is part of the community.

Speaker 2
He has dementia and, you know, he’s living a great life. So I think that’s really important. That caregiver, take care of yourself.

Speaker 1
Really quickly, in a minute or less, how therapeutic was it for you? Writing this book.

Speaker 3
Extremely cathartic. There were days that I couldn’t write at all and days that I would write for eight hours. But it just spewed out of me sometimes. And I’ve read the book again several times.

Speaker 1
Do you relive it every time that you read it?

Speaker 3
I read it differently. And now I read it with joy and good memories, you know, as I’ve kind of done a lot of introspective healing.

Speaker 1
I’ll bet. And finally, when a person reads this book, if there’s one thing that you hope that they take out of it, there’s a lot to remember in any book, really, that you read. But, boy, if someone says, you know what? You know what I took out from this book that really resonated with me? What would it be for this book?

Speaker 3
Oh, that’s easy. So it’s find joy and have no regrets. Right there in my paper.

Speaker 3
Yeah, she said that. Find joy, have no regrets. Find joy no matter what.

Speaker 3
You know, those dishes in the sink are going to pile up, and those fur balls are going to float across your floor. You’re not going to miss those later, but you’re going to miss the hand that you’re holding.

Speaker 1
How can people obtain this book really quickly?

Speaker 3
Yep, on Amazon. They can go on and just search for Oh Hello Alzheimer’s in books or on my Facebook blog titled the same thing. Oh, hello, Alzheimer’s. They could buy autographed copies there.

Speaker 1
Wonderful. The name of the book is Oh Hello Alzheimer’s, A Caregiver’s Journey of Love. The author of the book, our guest this morning, Lisa Marshall. Thank you for being with us.

Speaker 3
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1
Thank you. No, it’s absolutely essential. Folks, you’ve been listening to the latest edition of your next chapter, Senior Living with Siobhan Mattingly, The Heights Senior Living Specialist, Avery Heights, is a beautiful senior living community nestled within 43 acres of nature right in the heart of the junction between West Hartford, Newington, and Hartford.

Speaker 1
Those who live there have access to a full continuum of care, including independent and assisted living to memory care and a whole lot more. Visit AveryHeights.org or call 860-953-1201. Again, that’s 860-953-1201 to learn more about their own special brand of community, unlike any other in Connecticut.

Speaker 1
For Siobhan Mattingly, I’m Gary Byron. Thank you so much for listening. Until next Saturday morning, have a good one, everybody.

Speaker 1
So long.